DATE: June 2, 1993
TIME: 7:30 P.M.
PLACE: Gurnee Village Hall, 325 N. O'Plaine
Road
1. Call to Order and Roll Call.
2. a. Approval of Minutes of May 5,
1993 b. Approval of Minutes of May 19, 1993
3. Public Hearing: Petition of Centrum Properties, Inc. to amend the terms of an annexation
and development agreement to allow one additional pylon sign along I-94, change the
minimum distance allowed between pylon signs along I-94 from 300 linear feet to 250
linear feet and to add one pylon
sign along Grand Avenue.
4. Informal Discussion: Pine Crest Estates
5. Informal Discussion: Arbor Valley - Concord Homes
Members Present: Dan Robison, Carl
Cepon, Ken Hellstern, Bill Smith, and Chairman Rudny
Members Absent: Bill Gill and Steve
Kaplan
Other Officials Present: Jon Wildenberg,
Director of Building; Tracy Einspanjer, Village Planner; Bud Reed,
Village Engineer; and Barbara Swanson, Village Attorney
1. Call to order at 7:30 P.M. by Chairman
Rudny.
Chairman Rudny stated that the approval
of minutes will be postponed until the end of the meeting due
to a lack of a majority vote.
2. Public Hearing: Petition of Centrum
Properties, Inc., to amend the terms of an annexation and development
agreement to allow one additional pylon sign along 1-94, change
the minimum distance allowed between pylon signs along 1-94 from
300 linear feet to 250 linear feet and to add one pylon sign along
Grand Avenue.
Ms. Einspanjer explained that in addition
to the petitioner's request, Village staff suggested that the
petitioner change the method of measuring the height of signs
along Grand Avenue from 15 feet above the centerline of Grand
Avenue to 20 feet above site grade. This change is for administrative
purposes only; it will be easier for the sign companies to comply
with and easier for the Village to enforce The net effect will
be the same, or lower, height as the existing McDonald's sign.
Mr. John McLinden, Centrum Properties
and Mr. Nick Gainers, Lunan Family Restaurants, were
in attendance.
Mr. McLinden explained that Menards
was going to consolidate three lots (lot 8, 9 & 10) within
Northridge Plaza, but has decided not to build in this development.
The signage package for Northridge Plaza was written based upon
Menards consolidating three lots and therefore, needing only one
sign. Now, there are three lots for which only one sign has been
provided for in the development agreement. Centrum's attempts
at persuading users to share a Tollway sign have failed. Thus,
this request for one additional 1-94 pylon sign and one additional
Grand Avenue pylon sign.
There have also been changes to the
lot configurations along 1-94. Based upon the current location
of the Cracker Barrel 1-94 pylon sign, the reconfiguration of
the lots and the availability of two additional lots (due to Menards
not consolidating three lots), a reduction in the minimum distance
between 1-94 pylon signs is needed. Otherwise, signage for the
northern 1-94 lots would be oriented onto the exit ramp instead
of 1-94.
If any of the lots that front onto
1-94 are combined for one user, then only one pylon sign would
be installed for that business.
The monument sign at the corner of
Grand Avenue and frontage road is currently designed for 10 placards,
but will need to be increased to 12.
It was explained that the change in
measuring sign height for the Grand Avenue pylon signs is for
administrative purposes only and will not increase the height
of these signs.
Mr. Bob Osbourne, 1024 Limb, questioned
if McDonald's was to increase the height of their sign, if the
users along Grand Avenue would increase the height of theirs also.
Mr. Jim Estes, 1073 Bought Ct., questioned
the procedure of measuring the sign height along Grand Avenue.
He also inquired if Centrum was proposing to lower the height
of these signs. Mr. Estes stated concern with Centrum's performance
on the property to date.
Mr. Jerry Snyder, 5637 Woodhill, stated
that the landscape items residents were promised by Centrum have
not be installed. He informed the Commission that the berm along
Woodhill is 4 feet shorter than when they started work on the
site. Mr. Snyder was concerned with the number of accidents at
the intersection of Grand Avenue and Dilley's Road and was afraid
that with the increased number of signs along Grand will come
a higher number of accidents.
Mr. Earl Tennerman, 1020 Branch, stated
that the berm, trees and fence have not been installed along the
northwestern border of this site. He stated that Cracker Barrel
patrons cut through that area due to the lack of a fence.
Mr. Wildenberg explained that the road
was the initial improvement. Centrum started construction in September
of last year and, per the annexation agreement, they have one
year to install landscaping from the start of construction.
Mr. McLinden stated that he will investigate
the berm being 4 feet lower than when work was started. He stated
that construction was done in accordance with the grading plan.
Mr. Wildenberg stated that the change
in measuring the sign height along Grand was a request by Village
staff.
Dilley's and Grand is to be improved
to provide smoother egress/ingress
Mr. Robison arrives at 8:09 P.M.
Mr. Cepon moved, seconded by Mr. Smith,
to forward a favorable recommendation to the Village Board on
the petition of Centrum Properties, Inc., to amend the terms of
an annexation and development agreement to allow one additional
pylon sign along 1-94, change the minimum distance allowed between
pylon signs along 1-94 from 300 linear feet to 250 linear feet,
to add one pylon sign along Grand Avenue, to change the method
of measuring the height of signs along Grand Avenue from 15 feet
above the centerline of Grand Avenue to 20 feet above site grade
and that no more than one 1-94 pylon sign be allowed per user.
Roll Call Vote: Ayes: Cepon, Hellstern, Smith & Rudny Nays:
None Abstain: Robison Motion Carried 4-0-1
3. Informal Discussion: PineCrest Estates
Debbie Christenson, real estate broker;
Jim Frain, Donald Manhard & Assoc.,; and Mr. David Kline.
Kline Development, were in attendance.
The property is located on the east
side of Fuller Road, south of the Commonwealth Edison right-of-way,
south of the Boulders Subdivision.
The proposal is to subdivide the property
into 10 lots with a density of 2.6 du/ac. The lots will be a minimum
12,000 square feet with 107 feet of lot depth. The Comprehensive
Plan envisions this area to have a density of 2-4 du/ac. The property
is currently in the County and would have to be annexed.
The lots to the north back to the Commonwealth
Edison right-of-way, but do not have a great amount of depth.
A reduction to the road right-of-way
width, from 60 feet to 50 feet, is being proposed in order to
preserve as many trees as possible and achieve greater lot depth.
Mr. Kline stated that there is an existing
home on Lot 1, which will remain. The homes will range from 2400-3400
square feet and sell for approximately $300-400,000.
The Commission expressed concern with
the shallowness of the lots and suggested that the minimum lot
depth be 125 feet.
Mr. Kline explained that the lack of
lot depth is due to the site being heavily wooded. The middle
area contains the least amount of trees and that is where the
road will be. The homes will also have side-loading garages.
In response to the Commission, Mr.
Kline stated that he has tried to acquire the property to the
south, but the owner will not sell.
Concern was raised about the future
development of the property to the south. The Commission stated
that they do not want to see a series of straight roads off of
Fuller ending in cul-de-sacs. It was suggested that a road stub
be provided to connect the property to the south.
The Commission suggested that the lots
to the north be eliminated and the lots to the south be made deeper.
Also, the road could swing to the north instead of running through
the middle of the site.
Mr. Smith raised the concern that the
homeowners might need to come back to the Village in the future
for a variance to construct decks, swimming pools, etc., in the
rear yards because of the shallowness of the lots.
Ms. Christenson stated that she has
had no problems marketing smaller lots. These would be executive
houses and she has people who are interested in this development.
Decks would have to be installed initially with the construction
of the home. There is to be covenants and restrictions placed
on the property.
Ms. Christenson stated that there are
lots less than 100 feet in depth in Scarsdale's Pines Subdivision.
Mr. Wildenberg responded that the Pines
was developed under a PUD agreement, in which open space has to
be provided to compensate for smaller lot sizes. He further explained
that the Village is experiencing problems with homeowners wanting
to install decks and pools on their lots.
The Commission stated that they would
like to see increased lot depth, the road configuration extended
to the north, a road stub to the south for future development
and the right-of-way width expanded to the required 60 feet.
4. Informal Discussion: Arbor Valley
- Concord Homes
Bill Rotolo, Vice President Concord
Homes; Doug Vester, architect; and Jon Nelson, land planner, were
in attendance.
Ms. Einspanjer explained that Concord's
proposing to go from 202 apartment units, 232 townhome units and
208 manorhome units with a density of 8-9 du/ac from the previously
approved Arbor Valley plan, to: 118 lots having a lot size of
7,213 square feet (average) 5,500 square feet (minimum) and 187
lots having a lot size of 5,983 square feet (average), 4,950 square
feet (minimum) with an overall density of 3.5 du/ac.
Mr. Rotolo explained that standard
items that come with their homes include: sod for all yards, a
landscape package, fencing detail and basements. There will also
be monotony codes with the Subdivision.
This subdivision is bounded by commercial
and multi-family at the northeast quadrant Town & Country
(Elysian Fields) to the west, Commonwealth Edison right-of-way
to the south and Almond Road as the western boundary.
There will be two access locations
off of Almond Road. The primary entrance will be off of Rt.132.
The cul-de-sac plan is identical to the previously approved plan,
with the possibility of some being eliminated. The flag lots will
be eliminated.
Two lot types are proposed: the "cottage"
lot and the "village" lots.
Homes that back to the commercial property
will be enhanced with landscaping. The lots have been oriented
so that the side yards abut the commercial property, instead of
the rear yard. This eliminates the homeowners view of commercial
uses when utilizing their back yards. There will also be a landscape
buffer, berm and a solid wood fence between the commercial and
the single family properties.
Street right-of-way will be 60 feet,
with the exception of the cul-de-sacs which will be 50feet, and
sidewalks will be installed on both sides.
Almond Road is to have a 25-foot landscaped
area with a minimum 50-foot building setback.
Detention is at the northeast corner
of the site, although they are investigating placing some between
the Commonwealth Edison right-of-way and Lots 110,111 and 112.
There will be a recreation area and
possible "tot" lot, at the middle of the southern portion,
attached to the wetland.
The "cottage" lots will be
4,950 minimum square feet, 45 feet wide, and 110 feet deep. Setbacks
include: 22 foot front yard; 25-30 foot rear yard, corner side
yard of 15 feet and a side yard combined setback of 13 feet, but
they are working on 15 feet.
The "village" lots will be
5,500 minimum square feet, 55 feet wide, and 100 feet deep. Setbacks
will remain the same as the "cottage" lots.
The school population for elementary
and jr. high has increased 43% from 110 (approved) to 158 (proposed).
High school population will be increased from 26 to 51.
Mr. Vester explained that the "village"
lots will be a 40 foot wide product. The exterior will be aluminum
sided with brick, stone, drivet and cedar as accent materials.
One of the options will include a three-car tandem garage, in
which the third car space could be used instead as a den or sun
room The house size will range from 1600-2300 square feet and
market price is expected to be $150-170,000.
The "cottage" lots will be
similar to that of a European neighborhood. There are proposed
to be nine individual mini neighborhoods. The same building materials
will be used as the "village" lots. The house size will
range from 1350-1800 square feet and market price is expected
to be $130-160,000.
A few of the Commission members expressed
concern as to the small lot sizes and lot depth.
Mr. Jerry Vargo, President of Lake
Partners, stated that this proposal is substantially lower in
density than the previously approved plan. It was his opinion
that the single family homes would serve as a better transitional
use to the commercial along Rt.132 than the multi-family units.
The Commission stated that they would
like to see a combined spacing between units at 15 feet. They
have allowed 6.5 feet minimum side yard with a minimum 15 feet
between buildings.
There are to be berms with landscaping
between the homes to break-up the proximity of the homes.
Mr. Hellstern expressed concern over
the small lot sizes for single family.
Mr. Rudny stated that the Comprehensive
Plan indicates the area for medium to high density residential
(4-7 and 7-13 du/acre). It does not state whether the units should
be single family or multi family. Concord's plan changes the multi-family,
townhomes and manorhomes to a medium/high density single family.
It still is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan and reduces
the density. He stated that he thinks Concord is on the right
path, but that for this concept to work, special care must be
taken with the details (architecture, landscaping, hardscaping,
etc.). Mr. Robison agreed.
The Commission expressed the following
concerns: 1. Increased impact on the schools from the old plan
to the new plan. 2. Lot depth. 3. Lot depth for lots backing up
to Commonwealth Edison right-of-way. 4. Minimum distance between
building must be 15 feet. 5. More details on landscaping and "hardscaping."
Mr. Rudny stated that the Commission
would like to see the lots opened up a little bit and would also
like to see larger lot sizes.
Mr. Smith moved, seconded by Mr. Robison,
to approve the minutes of May 5,1993 as presented. Roll Call Vote:
Ayes: Robison, Hellstern, Smith & Rudny Nays: None Abstain:
Cepon Motion Carried 4-0-1
Mr. Cepon moved, seconded by Mr. Robison,
to approve the minutes of May 19,1993 as presented. Roll Call
Vote: Ayes: Robison, Cepon, Hellstern & Rudny Nays: None Abstain:
Smith Motion Carried 4-0-1
Mr. Cepon moved, seconded by Mr. Smith, to adjourn the meeting at 10:05 P.M.
Voice Vote: All Ayes