Minutes of the Regular Meeting of the Gurnee Plan Commission - November 16, 2011


Village of Gurnee

Plan Commission Minutes

November 16, 2011



The meeting was called to order at 7:30 P.M.

Plan Commission Members Present:      Chairman James Sula, Richard McFarlane, Gwenn Broughton, Sharon Salmons

Plan Commission Members Absent:       David Nordentoft, Patrick Drennan

Other Officials Present:                         Bryan Winter, Village Attorney; Dave Ziegler, Community Development Director; Tracy Velkover, Planning Manager; Molly Booth, Associate Planner; Ryan Mentkowski, Associate Planner


1.  Approval of Plan Commission Meeting Minutes for September 21, 2011.

Mr. McFarlane made a motion, seconded by Ms. Salmons, to approve the Plan Commission Meeting Minutes for

September 21, 2011.


Roll Call

Ayes:                Sula, McFarlane, Broughton, Salmons

Nays:                None

Abstain:            None

Motion Carried: 4-0-0


2.   Approval of the Plan Commission’s 2012 meeting schedule

Chairman Sula asked the Commission if anyone had any concerns about the dates in the 2012 meeting schedule.


Mr. McFarlane made a motion, seconded by Ms. Broughton to approve the Plan Commission 2012 meeting schedule.


Roll Call

Ayes:                Sula, McFarlane, Broughton, Salmons

Nays:                None

Abstain:            None

Motion Carried: 4-0-0


3. Minor Sign Exception: Gurnee Travel (120 S. Rte. 21)

Ms. Velkover stated this is for property located at 120 S. Route 21. She stated the existing sign blew down and damaged severely in the July 11, 2011 storm. She stated the owner, Mr. Dave O’Brien is looking to replace the sign and is seeking (2) two Minor Exceptions to the Sign Ordinance in the office zoning district.  She stated the maximum height is limited to (10) ten feet and the owner is asking to increase the height of the sign to (13) thirteen feet. She stated the owner’s reasoning as to why is due to the property sitting lower than the adjacent roadway.


Ms. Velkover stated she had the Village Engineering division go to the site and shoot the grade. She stated the median is about (2) two feet higher and the outside lane which is the closest lane to the property is about (3) three feet higher; therefore there is some grade change. She stated the second minor exception being requested is that the sign currently has upper case and lower case letters. She stated there are just two tenants within the facility with one of the tenants having a very long name. She stated the request is for all the lower case letters within the names of the tenants on the sign and that they are 6” inch letters rather than the required 8” inch letters.   She stated the rationale is that they believe it is more legible having two different letter heights both capital and lowercase letters as well from an aesthetic standpoint. She stated the sign contractor is present to answer any questions the Commission may have.


Chairman Sula asked the sign contractor who is present this evening on behalf of Mr. O’Brien, if there is anything he would like to add to what has already been stated this evening.


The sign contractor stated if he wasn’t mistaken that the capital letters were 8” inches and it is just the lower case letters be a little smaller than the 8” inches. He stated the one tenant has such a long name and they felt the 8” inch letters would not work, cramming in way too much. He stated the sign is about the same square footage but would be just a little higher and is narrower than what it currently is now.


Chairman Sula asked for questions or comments from the Commission.


Mr. McFarlane asked if the poles for the sign are wood.


The sign contractor responded yes they are wood. He stated the poles are also a little narrower.


Mr. McFarlane stated most signs approved by the Commission have been a maximum height of (12) twelve feet. He stated he would like to stay with that size and noted he went and looked at the grade. He stated the sign is up off the ground now with visual sighting of the sign. He stated if a couple of feet were added it would provide plenty of room and asked if he could live with (12) twelve feet.


The sign contractor stated they increased the height of the sign and it is about the same height above the ground as it was before.


Mr. McFarlane stated if the current sign is measured from the ground to the top of the sign it is (10) ten feet. He stated a couple of more feet would provide plenty of height from a visibility standpoint from the road and keep consistent with what the Commission is doing elsewhere.


Chairman Sula stated if there is a (3) three foot difference from the grade of the sign and the grade of the street, this is a reasonable request.


Chairman Sula asked for any other questions from the Commission.


Chairman Sula asked for a motion to approve.


Ms. Broughton made a motion, seconded by Ms. Salmons, to approve a Minor Sign Exception for the property located at 120 S. Route 21 to allow an increase to height of the ground sign from (10) ten feet to (13) thirteen feet and for a reduction in the height of the letter from (8) inches to (6) six inches.


Roll Call

Ayes:                Sula, Broughton, Salmons

Nays:                McFarlane

Abstain:            None

Motion Carried: 3-1-0


Chairman Sula asked for motion to adjourn.


Ms. Salmons made a motion, seconded by Ms. Salmons, to adjourn.


The Meeting was adjourned at 7:38 P.M.


Respectfully Submitted:


Joanne Havenhill
Plan Commission Secretary

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